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 Post subject: Re: New Challenge
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:33 am 
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I was going to take it to 1k and stop,

But then the game bugged on me...

The hex I was using for the combo started showing up unrevealed and wouldn't let me cast anything on it, no matter how many times I tried restarting the game.

Angel, I can show you a picture of the game bugging.

It wouldn't let me cast anything anymore *bug*, so I had to pass:
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 Post subject: Re: New Challenge
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:05 am 
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Keyser wrote:
I must say that I find it really interesting that your "combo", Monyx, only happened AFTER you watched my game and saw that I was going infinite.

You saw how I was getting unlimited flux, and then, while watching my game, decided you could do it as well, in a slightly different manner.

In retrospect, if I had known how to block someone from watching my game (what's the code for that, anyone?), I would have.



keyser....instead of getting offended which i would normally do i will merely show you the retrospect. perhaps i thought of a combo last nite and slept 19 hours last nite til today and woke and did the combo then. I also told noob mexican the combo before either of us watched you do the combo. Also within the combo id say we use 1 of the same cards out of maybe the 7 that actually make the combo work.you use an entirely different approach. id say that is a lil more than slightly different. But i thought of the combo after viewing a post on tfw last nite. and not only that you and i talked about part of the combo which im using that youre not using yesterday evening. Before you ever even figured out how to do it.

also yes you couldve blocked me but it wouldnt take me back in time and make me forget the combo that i had already thought of lmao. Secondly theres no need to ask ppl how to block cause i already told you about 6 hours ago its /sc ban. did u seriously forget that already?

Ok promise me you wont make me defend myself anymore :) i really dont like having to do it.

Also if there there is no rule about patenting a combo. even if i did see u use and figure out then which that isnt what happened. Ill let atheist decide..im done worrying about it...ive seriously spent too much time defending myself already. but ill show u where tryin to talk to someone gets u.

Also i decided i dont like having to defend myself on forum because it often results in one or more persons looking bad so i tryed to discuss the matters personally within the game and well this is where it got me.

keyser monyx convo viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2084

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 Post subject: Re: New Challenge
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:03 am 
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Ok, Since both Monyx and Keyser reached arbitrarily large amount of glory, i'm going to declare that both have won this challenge and give each of them 100 gold.

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 Post subject: Re: New Challenge
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:12 am 
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Monyx wrote:
Keyser wrote:
I must say that I find it really interesting that your "combo", Monyx, only happened AFTER you watched my game and saw that I was going infinite.

You saw how I was getting unlimited flux, and then, while watching my game, decided you could do it as well, in a slightly different manner.

In retrospect, if I had known how to block someone from watching my game (what's the code for that, anyone?), I would have.



keyser....instead of getting offended which i would normally do i will merely show you the retrospect. perhaps i thought of a combo last nite and slept 19 hours last nite til today and woke and did the combo then. I also told noob mexican the combo before either of us watched you do the combo. Also within the combo id say we use 1 of the same cards out of maybe the 7 that actually make the combo work.you use an entirely different approach. id say that is a lil more than slightly different. But i thought of the combo after viewing a post on tfw last nite. and not only that you and i talked about part of the combo which im using that youre not using yesterday evening. Before you ever even figured out how to do it.

also yes you couldve blocked me but it wouldnt take me back in time and make me forget the combo that i had already thought of lmao. Secondly theres no need to ask ppl how to block cause i already told you about 6 hours ago its /sc ban. did u seriously forget that already?

Ok promise me you wont make me defend myself anymore :) i really dont like having to do it.

Also if there there is no rule about patenting a combo. even if i did see u use and figure out then which that isnt what happened. Ill let atheist decide..im done worrying about it...ive seriously spent too much time defending myself already. but ill show u where tryin to talk to someone gets u.

Also i decided i dont like having to defend myself on forum because it often results in one or more persons looking bad so i tryed to discuss the matters personally within the game and well this is where it got me.

keyser monyx convo viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2084



Monyx, you admitted that your combo wouldn't work without seeing how I did the nature scaping part. All of this could have been prevented had I simply blocked you rather than trusting in the integrity of the players.

Angel should judge this by either
1) First Infinite Post: If all forms of infinity are considered equal, he should award the prize to the player that posted a proven infinity combo first. It's easy to say that you figured something out. In fact, I could claim I already had the infinite glory combo figured out 8 years ago.

2) Highest Posted Glory for one week: This was the original method stated before anyone knew that infinite combos were possible in this scenario. Monyx said he wanted the winner to the be the one that posted the highest amount. In that case, Monyx, you should post an amount higher than this, and keep it the highest value for a week
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3) Efficiency: The method that gets the most glory per action, including actions used to get flux and glory. My current best method gets 4 glory for every 5 actions or 1.25 actions/ 1 glory.

**EDIT** IT's now 2 actions for 2 glory, including getting the flux needed to cast the spells.

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 Post subject: Re: New Challenge
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:14 am 
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WOW thanks atheist but in spirit of fw im just gonna forfeit half my money...but 50 can go to noob mexican cause he helped me figure out how to do it all. Ill donate my 50 to the next challenge. I dont wanna discourage you from doing these. they are really fun. =) cant wait for the next insanely quacky challenge u come up with!!

"Monyx, you admitted that your combo wouldn't work without seeing how I did the nature scaping part. All of this could have been prevented had I simply blocked you rather than trusting in the integrity of the players."

My integrity isnt at stake at all. My integrity within this game is just fine. As i said ill forfeit 50 of my 100 and the other 50 can go to noob. I do enjoy a good challenge and i see u want to take the challenge even further but if u are so desperate that u need and wanna try to patent an idea that isnt even that hard to think of and try to ban anyone from using it if they saw u do it before they actually did it themselves. then i would most definetly be worried about my own integrity. Im the one defending myself here. when a person has to defend themselves to this point, u tell me whose integrity is at stake? You are quite vain to suggest that i stole "YOUR" idea.

You can say ur lil remarks like "admit it or not" all day. That is a poor choice of words to bring into a debate. Ive already taken this quite further than i should have but i admit i am quite hard headed. But i will never say that this idea was yours when im the one that thought of it.

Also for the record...i take no pride in the fact that i thought of the combo....nor do i care about the gold. I think perhaps a 2 year old could have thought of the combo...prolly easier than me or keyser either one.

Also where the samhill is darkjello in all this....i do miss that fella.

Also i find it funny that u didnt mention fastest glory time as one of the winning possibilities....im sure you know its because i would win on those grounds. I would accept your challenge but atheist already declared us both winners. I hope you do the right thing and donate your money like i did. After all atheist cant fund these events all the time if he is giving us all his gold :)

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 Post subject: Re: New Challenge
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:01 pm 
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Monyx, do you exploit new Stalking Spirit bug when it not dies? If yes it doesn't looks like proper solution.

[edit] Asked in game chat. Yes, you do :)

And, to be honest, Keyser's combo used to get infinite flux should be removed form game, because it's not so hard ( not so hard for infinite flux :) ) to get in real game, so it's probably OP ;) .


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 Post subject: Re: New Challenge
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:22 pm 
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Monyx wrote:
WOW thanks atheist but in spirit of fw im just gonna forfeit half my money...but 50 can go to noob mexican cause he helped me figure out how to do it all. Ill donate my 50 to the next challenge. I dont wanna discourage you from doing these. they are really fun. =) cant wait for the next insanely quacky challenge u come up with!!

"Monyx, you admitted that your combo wouldn't work without seeing how I did the nature scaping part. All of this could have been prevented had I simply blocked you rather than trusting in the integrity of the players."

My integrity isnt at stake at all. My integrity within this game is just fine. As i said ill forfeit 50 of my 100 and the other 50 can go to noob. I do enjoy a good challenge and i see u want to take the challenge even further but if u are so desperate that u need and wanna try to patent an idea that isnt even that hard to think of and try to ban anyone from using it if they saw u do it before they actually did it themselves. then i would most definetly be worried about my own integrity. Im the one defending myself here. when a person has to defend themselves to this point, u tell me whose integrity is at stake? You are quite vain to suggest that i stole "YOUR" idea.

You can say ur lil remarks like "admit it or not" all day. That is a poor choice of words to bring into a debate. Ive already taken this quite further than i should have but i admit i am quite hard headed. But i will never say that this idea was yours when im the one that thought of it.

Also for the record...i take no pride in the fact that i thought of the combo....nor do i care about the gold. I think perhaps a 2 year old could have thought of the combo...prolly easier than me or keyser either one.

Also where the samhill is darkjello in all this....i do miss that fella.

Also i find it funny that u didnt mention fastest glory time as one of the winning possibilities....im sure you know its because i would win on those grounds. I would accept your challenge but atheist already declared us both winners. I hope you do the right thing and donate your money like i did. After all atheist cant fund these events all the time if he is giving us all his gold :)


Do you really want to continue this? If you see someone doing something, and then use it for your own, that's not doing it yourself. Let's put this in terms of something more "real" to you. Let's say that France wanted to win the World Cup, and they saw Germany doing something that would assure the win, so they start using those same plays in their games, varying them slightly.

But I see you have a different perspective on the world, so there's really no point in discussing that.

Where did your desire to give up gold come from? You mentioned several times in game how you were willing to do anything it took to get 100 gold because you were "desperate" for gold. You said that one time right before you blocked me from watching your game. "No hard feelings, but 100 gold is on the line"

As far as who can get the most glory the fastest, I believe that the third method, the one dealing with efficiency, covers the ability to get it fastest. The more efficient you are at something, the faster you can do it, and the less energy it requires. So how much time do you want to go up against me with? The full 2 hours? 1 hour? 30 minutes?

As far as two year old being able to come up with this, you have, in one sentence, insulted every single player of this game who attempted the glory challenge. You have said that all of us are dumber than a 2 year old. Not even Jeff Foxworthy goes that far. He gives the general population a fighting chance against 5 year olds.

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 Post subject: Re: New Challenge
 Post Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:49 am 
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i cant belive you asked me if i wanna continue this....not really no i dont....kinda funny that you asked me if i wanna continue and then instead of leaving it at that....you write this big thing that im not even gonna acknowledge.

I will say tho i never said anyone is dumber than a 2 year old....and also i dont have anything against 2 year olds. i happen to know a couple and i think theyre pretty smart. :D

Also if i said im desperate for "gold" you werent speaking to me. You were speaking to someone else on my account. i dont care about gold at all.....i basically loan my cards out so they can be used against me on a regular basis......sigh i really hope youre done. ive no desire to keep defending myself. Id say at this point weve both shown that were quite dumb for continuing this. i forgot about this 2 days ago but just happened to log on.....well gl with all future endeavors.

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